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Richard Kettlewell ([personal profile] ewx) wrote2006-06-12 11:27 pm
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Craig Sweeney

Sentencing him to life in jail at Cardiff Crown Court, Judge John Griffith Williams QC said he would not be considered for parole for five years - and only then if he did not pose a significant risk of re-offending

So the minimum possible time inside is five years. Given that he's a repeat offender anyway, one might reasonable imagine that whoever is in charge of determining whether he poses a "significant risk" will take a rather skeptical view. The judge seems to be of similar view. Nevertheless, I have some sympathy with the view that five years is kind of short for kidnap and rape, even in the face of positively angelic behaviour for the duration. So how was that number reached?

"The judge has to determine first of all the notional sentence, which in this case was 18 years," he said.
"Then that is cut by half to reach the actual sentence. Then the judge is obliged to cut a third off in view of the guilty plea."

The arithmetic seems a bit off there. However assuming that the reporting is basically right, and the journalist involved merely too innumerate to notice the discrepancy, isn't the government ultimately attacking its own sentencing policy here?

[identity profile] pjc50.livejournal.com 2006-06-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's a bit alarming if life routinely means about five years. I mean, why call it "life" then?

As you say, expecting life to mean life puts you immediately on the right wing. "Life" does indeed often mean a few years, or at most a decade, with a very few exceptions where the Home Secretary has specifically intervened (e.g. Myra Hindley)

The arithmetic is probably slightly off because he has already served time on remand which will be deducted. See this other example (http://www.squandertwo.net/blog/2006/06/life-of-lifetimes.htm) of a life sentence which means about six years. I don't understand the halving thing, it appears to apply to all sentences.
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[personal profile] pm215 2006-06-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)

According to the Sentencing Guidelines (PDF) para 2.1.3 (p18):

Where a prison sentence of 12 months or more is imposed on an offender who is not classified as "dangerous", that offender will be entitled to be released from custody after completing half of the sentence. The whole of the second half of the sentence will be subject to licence requirements.

(This has all been tightened up by the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Section 229 talks about what 'dangerous' means here. Note also the stuff about life sentences, which I suspect of being a bone thrown to the life-means-life crowd, though I haven't looked closely at them.)

Note that the Sentencing Guidelines say that the sentencer is supposed to clearly spell out what the sentence means and that it's really in two parts, one custodial and one in the community.

[identity profile] senji.livejournal.com 2006-06-13 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking as a leftie, I want life to mean life; and if you don't mean life then just don't call it life dammit.

This doesn't mean I want more people to be in prison for life, just that I want people to say what they mean.

[identity profile] arnhem.livejournal.com 2006-06-13 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
What I think I want is for judges to say (not to me, ideally ...) "you should be imprisoned for between X and Y years (dependent on behaviour and apparent level of rehabilitation), and then be released on license for a further Z years", and to be able to tune all three of these to suit the situation.

The problem, then, of course, is the battle between allowing judges the facility to adjust their sentencing to the specific situation (the historical approach) and the desire to see that the punishment of comparable crimes is fair between instances (the modern, prescriptive, approach).