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The sun is a lightbulb

A candle's a treat


In the first of those lines, the sentence is the opposite way around to usual: it's telling you something about the lightbulb, not the sun, and you'd usually write "the lightbulb is ..." to mean that. Is there a name for this kind of inversion?

The second line follows the normal order, which would be unremarkable on its own, but is another kind of inversion in the context of the first line. Again, is there a name for this structure?

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Date: 2003-08-14 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saraphale.livejournal.com
How is the first sentence telling you something about the lightbulb?

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Date: 2003-08-14 05:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
It depends a little on the context, though I'm far from sure what ewx is getting at.

Consider "Lightbulbs are approximately spheroid things that emit light. The sun is a lightbulb." as compared with "The sun is a huge glowing ball that provides us with illumination. The sun is a lightbulb."

In the first case, "The sun is a lightbulb." is taken as shorthand for "The sun is an example of a lightbulb."

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Date: 2003-08-14 05:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Ah, perhaps more context needed - "The curtains stay closed now". The rest of the lyrics (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/porcupinetree/lightbulbsun.html).

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Date: 2003-08-14 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saraphale.livejournal.com
Ah, I see. 'The sun has been replaced with a lightbulb', basically?

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Date: 2003-08-14 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
Hmm. It's possibly some specialised form of metaphor, then? What you need is someone with a degree in English, though. (-8

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Date: 2003-08-14 06:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
I believe at least one such to be reading this journal...

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Date: 2003-08-14 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbp.livejournal.com
The sun is a lightbulb

Well it certainly was in the HHGG TV show - they used a lightbulb as the sun in an FX shot of sunrise over a field.

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Date: 2003-08-15 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
I still can't see how the first sentence is supposed to turn the second sentence into an `inversion'.

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Date: 2003-09-06 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thomsworld.livejournal.com
Hi all. Came upon this by accident. I'd agree that the sentence isn't about the lightbulb. The 'lightbulb' is being used as a metaphor for the sun.

My guess is, if the sun is a lightbulb, what could be a candle? A candle isn't as bright as a lightbulb, so perhaps the moon?

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