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Jan. 8th, 2004 11:25 am
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"Apart from oil - which was discovered, is produced and is paid for by the West - what do they contribute?"

...actually, it seems Arabs were using oil at least as far back as the time of the crusades, although presumably not on a modern scale.

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Date: 2004-01-08 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendym.livejournal.com
Oh and, Mr. Silk, Algebra, little things like that.

He's not a patch on Trisha either.

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] addedentry.livejournal.com
Algebra, algorithms, alchem(istr)y, and best of all alcohol (http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=2281757)...

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com

"algorithm" originally referred to the number system Europeans learmned from the Arabs, but the contemporary meaning of "algorithm" is quite different.

alcohol - strictly, distilling.

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
IIRC Al-Khawarizmi himself was actually born in what is now Uzbekistan.

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Date: 2004-01-08 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
Someone should point out to Kilroy that, um, we imported the foundations of higher mathematics from the Arabs.

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Date: 2004-01-08 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mobbsy.livejournal.com
Oh, that reminds me, I still have your copy of Crusades Through Arab Eyes. Which I should give back at some point.

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sparrowsion
Over-heard yesterday two management types walking past my desk with the highly-multilingual one explaining how in modern Spanish most of the words in the sphere of luxury and the arts have Arabic derivations, whereas those referring to warfare are from Germanic languages....

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
What have the RoArabs ever done for us?

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Date: 2004-01-08 10:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
Well, yeah — historically the Arabs have been prolific in the arts and sciences, at least the match of their Western counterparts.

It all started to go wrong, of course, when the Industrial Revolution allowed us to leap ahead. The Ottoman Empire, in particular, was very slow to jump on the bandwagon.

Maybe some day soon a boffin in Qatar will invent the Next Big Thing, and the tables will be turned for the next two centuries; maybe not.

As for his claims that Arabs are socially and morally backward — his references to repression of women and cutting off the hands of thieves, etc. — maybe he should visit Alabama some day, and then work out how to explain to a Moslem in Kuwait that just because he's also racially caucasian and ethically Christian, he shouldn't be tarred with the same brush.

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Date: 2004-01-08 04:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com

I think the near future of Iraq is probably going to be a key period for the development of the Arab world. Will it become a modern state (or several modern states), or a disaster area? The first two options could - at best - spread modern thinking to the rest of the region; the last could - at worst - make the last 50 years there look stable.

Improvements in Iran and Egypt could have wider benefits too but I don't think they currently have the same potential for disaster.

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