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Date: 2005-02-07 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
Same sort of thing that leads to the Democrats not kicking their assorted charismatic crooks like Teddy Kennedy out of the party permanently, probably.

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Date: 2005-02-07 12:15 am (UTC)
gerald_duck: (lemonjelly)
From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
They're probably thinking they want his money. They might even be thinking how fubared British politics would become if he joined Veritas…

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Date: 2005-02-07 01:40 am (UTC)
ext_3375: Banded Tussock (Woolly Monochrome sketch)
From: [identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com


He surely can't enter Parliament again: not in the Lords, and not even if he ran for a seat in the Commons. It's not just that someone would try to stop him, there's the tricky matter of his Oath of Allegiance. A convicted perjurer cannot 'give his word' - nor, in the strictest terms, his signature, handshake or any other undertaking.

The point being: a crime is a specific action, a fraud is a specific deceit; time passes and you may atone for them. Or not, but the law does explicitly state that criminal convictions 'expire'. But perjury is more than action in breach of the law: it is to wilfully repudiate your own duty, the truth, the Bible and anything you consider sacred, in the pursuit of personal gain. It's a permanent mark of your inability to enter into any agreement or compact in good faith, and of your unworthiness be received into any society of men who prize honour and virtue over the external advantages of rank and fortune.

Nobody will be seen shaking his hand. Not if they've any sense: the mark rubs off! If I knowingly enter into a compact with a perjurer my word's worthless too.

I'd look forward to seeing Archer try to re-enter the House of Lords - as, apparently, the 'Department of Constitutional Affairs' believe he is still entitled to do - because any Peer could halt the debate by pointing out that, while a convicted perjurer is present among them, he cannot address the House as 'Noble Lords'. It's the equivalent of the Commons, where MP's are addressed as 'Honourable Gentlemen', and it's more than just a compulsory verbal flourish; the House does not act unless they are. Although I suspect that someone would be very unpopular for removing, or even drawing public attention to that flimsy constitutional figleaf over Parliament's all-too-frequent lapses from nobility and honour.

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Date: 2005-02-07 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
Beggars != Choosers?

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Date: 2005-02-07 08:37 am (UTC)
emperor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] emperor
"Howard is a characterless arsehole", perhaps?

They are clearly mad, however.

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Date: 2005-02-07 10:17 am (UTC)
sparrowsion: (angel)
From: [personal profile] sparrowsion
By leaving the door open to Archer they are merely following the precedent set by the prison service.

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Date: 2005-02-07 10:47 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
*laugh*

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Date: 2005-02-07 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gmh.livejournal.com
The recent exodus of boat-borne rats has led to calls for relaxation of guidelines with regard to the question 'what constitutes a rat?'.

It's easier than admitting that the ship is becoming a submarine.

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Date: 2005-02-07 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juggzy.livejournal.com
What they are thinking is that he isn't really a criminal and that what he did wasn't really a crime. And that all he did wrong was to be caught.

The Tories haven't changed one ickle bit in the intervening eight years.

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