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Date: 2005-02-08 11:28 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
(...and we have an employee referral scheme.)

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Date: 2005-02-08 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
Hmm... 2 years commecial experience... Just like all the others.

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Date: 2005-02-08 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
First class or upper second honours, just like all the others, too.

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Date: 2005-02-08 11:54 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
It says "appreciation of ISO9000" too but that's not been enforced in the past...

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Date: 2005-02-08 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
I think the correct appreciation of ISO9000 is
"That's the thing that says that bad procedures are OK if they're well-documented, right?"

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Date: 2005-02-08 12:09 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
The general point is that, with many employers, you can still get a job even if you aren't a perfect match to the ad.

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Date: 2005-02-08 12:56 pm (UTC)
ext_15802: (Default)
From: [identity profile] megamole.livejournal.com
I appreciate ISO9000. It's the only thing about that description that I don't feel an absolute numskull about.

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Date: 2005-02-08 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
That's not a criteron in bold - furthermore, what's an "in depth" understanding of C?

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Date: 2005-02-08 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com
That's not to say you shouldn't apply speculatively. From my experience with this company, they are willing to bend their spec on occasion.

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Date: 2005-02-08 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
I'm curious to know what the salary range is (for purposes of yearly review negotiations).

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Date: 2005-02-08 12:07 pm (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
I'll ask when I'm not off sick any more...
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Date: 2005-02-08 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com
... and, believe it or not, so am I ;-) ... I doubt you'll get a straight answer, though I suppose we could run some sort of zero-knowledge protocol amongst ourselves?

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Date: 2005-02-08 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pjc50.livejournal.com
I'd settle for a single "is it higher than £X?" probe.

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Date: 2005-02-08 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
Geek 1: I'll let you guess.
Geek 2: while (guess((a+b)/2)) (guess((a+b)/2)>0?b:a)=(a+b)/2;
Geek 1: £salary

NB: Code for humour purposes only. Not valid c.

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Date: 2005-02-08 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckyc.livejournal.com
*Nods*, yeah, seems sensible. Other alternatives might be whether or not higher rate tax has to be paid, whether you'd have to pay back (old style) student loans, whether it's bigger than age. Yeah, lots of variability there, I know ;-).

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Date: 2005-02-08 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
Yes I noticed that salary doesn't seem to be one of the benefits of this career…

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Date: 2005-02-08 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-lark-asc.livejournal.com
Oi, you bastard, you earn way more than I do and you're not in debt! Stop fishing for recruitment bonuses and leave them to people who need the money *sulks*

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Date: 2005-02-08 02:08 pm (UTC)
gerald_duck: (Duckula)
From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
Um.

You seem to have outsourced the writing of your job advertisements to someone who is capable of writing C++ as "C plus", missing out the hyphens in "UNIX- and Windows-based" and ensuring full buzzword compliance, while omitting the requirement that the person be happy working on hardware crypto modules or related host-side software.

To people who know nCipher already, "nCipher are hiring software engineers" says it all; to other suitable people, would that advertisement not look a little off-putting?

And how can nCipher be "young" in tech-company terms, when I've been thinking about applying for a job, off and on, for almost a decade? (The fear that IWJ and I would fight to the death before the first week was out is the main thing that prevents me.)

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Date: 2005-02-08 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazyscot.livejournal.com
I parse that as "(A good depth of knowledge in C) plus, optionally, knowledge of Java and/or Python" - but then again, I have insider knowledge. There's next to no C++ here.

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Date: 2005-02-08 02:31 pm (UTC)
sparrowsion: tree sparrow (tree sparrow)
From: [personal profile] sparrowsion
writing C++ as "C plus"

Er, I think that's actually someone confusingly writing "C and" as "C plus".

(Hmm, were I to be applying—and breadth of languages on multiple platforms is certainly where my marketable skills are—I'm sure I could trade off my poor degree against 10+years industrial experience. But the "interest in software developement outside …" would be a killer. I sometimes think I'm the only geek who wants to get away from the computer at the end of the working day.)

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Date: 2005-02-08 03:54 pm (UTC)
gerald_duck: (frontal)
From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
Oh ick. If that's what they meant then "A good depth of knowledge in C; optionally knowledge of Java and/or Python" would have been much clearer. I suppose I was prejudiced in my reading of it by the general style of the rest of the document, though.

The proven interest in software development is only a "good extra", of course…

Personally, I like coding, but can only take so much of it. This leaves me torn between getting a software engineering job and using my leisure time to do something else, and getting an I.T. Management job and coding at home. It's actually a tricky choice.

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Date: 2005-02-08 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claroscuro.livejournal.com
Eek!

Look what this did to my web browser (Firefox 0.9.2)

http://www.saz.org/images/eek.gif

It seems to be fine in [livejournal.com profile] senji's Mozilla 1.6...

And everything else is still working for me...

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