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The Tories say they will create 20,000 more prison places, using £1m saved by reducing crime and ensuring proper rehabilitation schemes.

£50 per prisoner, then?

(Presumably these are annualized figures, but actually reporting the units correctly would be too close to accurate journalism.)

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Date: 2004-10-06 06:47 am (UTC)
gerald_duck: (Duckula)
From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
Presumably, they meant a billion, not a million, and annually rather than one-off?

Either that or they're planning oubilettes. If their mission is still to position themselves politically to the right of Labour, that's not completely implausible…

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saraphale.livejournal.com
Perhaps they're planning capsule prisons?

http://www.tradingplaces.org/2001/capsulehotel.jpg

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Date: 2004-10-07 05:43 am (UTC)
ext_8103: (Default)
From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
A billion sounds rather a lot to plausibly save by reducing crime, at least within the normal parameters that governments actually manage.

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Date: 2004-10-06 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com
I'll fund two prison places if I get to choose who one of them goes to!

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:08 am (UTC)
sparrowsion: (angel)
From: [personal profile] sparrowsion
Let me see if I've got this straight. They say they're going to fund more prison places through savings incurred through reducing crime and improved rehabilitation schemes (how does that work anyway? Nevermind.) So where does the funding for the 40,000 extra police who will presumably be responsible for reducing crime come from?
Increased council taxes which central government can then claim aren't their tax rises (except of course council tax is a central governement stealth tax when you're in opposition)? Or is the mere threat of more prison places supposed to bootstrap a reduction in crime which will fund more prison space (which won't be needed because of the reduction in crime…)?

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imc.livejournal.com
From the brief bits I heard on Today their reasoning seems to be that up to 80% of the persistent offenders who commit most of Britain's crimes are currently not in prison and should be; therefore, if the Tories put them in prison then the crime rate will fall. I'm not sure where the £1m comes into it.

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Date: 2004-10-10 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beingjdc.livejournal.com
The police funding apparently comes from reducing the number of asylum seekers. Note also Council Tax is probably the least stealthy tax in existence in the UK.

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Date: 2004-10-06 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com
I keep parsing 'prison places' as 'university places'. Perhaps they'd like to put all 18-21 year olds who do not take up a university place into prison?

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