Footnotes

Apr. 12th, 2005 06:11 pm
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Is it just my perception or are people using footnotes in livejournal posts and comments lately?

(Edit: I mean to say “using footnotes more”. Oops.)

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Date: 2005-04-12 05:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nja.livejournal.com
Do you think you are hallucinating footnotes?

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Date: 2005-04-12 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
I certainly seem to be.

I wonder if it's that [livejournal.com profile] atreic - her posts later are quite memorable, and of a style and subject matter that encourages footnotery.

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Date: 2005-04-12 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
Sorry. But my footnotes arn't anything new. I apologise if they're contagious

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Date: 2005-04-12 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptc24.livejournal.com
I *like* footnotes. And anyway, your footnotes aren't new, but lately you've been making a lot of "lets discuss this big weighty thing" posts, which I think make good meme[1] sources.

[1] In the original, and not the specialised LJ sense.

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Date: 2005-04-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com

I don't dislike footnotes as such. Though it is possible to abuse them and some people seem to consider doing so to be the height of good style, and so I had to kill them.

There is one point, which is that on a screen you have to scroll down to look at them and then scroll back up, and it's actually much easier if they appear immediately after the paragraph they belong to. I'm not sure if there's a standard name for things that would be footnotes but are just after their owning paragraph.

(I dislike endnotes in books, or at least endnotes that you might want to read, similarly; you end up having to keep two bookmarks, one where you're reading and one in the endnotes. On a printed page footnotes seem like the best answer.)

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Date: 2005-04-12 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arnhem.livejournal.com
you have to scroll down to look at them and then scroll back up

which suggests that on screen a better approach is the marginal note (or perhaps the tooltip), if you wish to avoid disrupting the flow of a sentence by the insertion of a long bracketed section?

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Date: 2005-04-13 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com
on a screen you have to scroll down to look at them and then scroll back up,

A couple of people, eg passage, always make the asterisk and the footnote link to each other, which solves that.

it's actually much easier if they appear immediately after the paragraph they belong to.

I tend to do which ever feels more useful and amusing. In serious posts, I often include footnotes of genuine "most people don't need this, but if you were going to say foo, here's my response." Conversely, if it's just an amusing aside, below the para is generally more useful.

"Paranotes?" not really logical, but clear.

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Date: 2005-04-13 12:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com
Links aren't really the answer - you still need to act to see the note, if they are on the same screenful then you can just focus on a different bit of it.

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Date: 2005-04-16 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Perhaps a good way to do this is to use the <abbr> tag.

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Date: 2005-04-12 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lethargic-man.livejournal.com
I've been using footnotes since a copy of Terry Pratchett's Colour of Magic dropped off a bookshelf on my head at the age of eight*.

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Date: 2005-04-12 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mstevens.livejournal.com
I don't use footnotes, but I'm a big fan of linking as much as you can.

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Date: 2005-04-12 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-lark-asc.livejournal.com
The plural of footnote is feetneet, as any fule kno :)

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Date: 2005-04-12 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senji.livejournal.com
I've been using footnotes for some time – blame USENET§ (#ewx217884senji01).

§ () I even have a mostly written RFC on the use of footnotes. Maybe I should turn it into a web-page instead….

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