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Date: 2004-03-09 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldbloke.livejournal.com
Ok, as an object for the verb you can have an infinitive, a noun, or whatever-part-of-speech "-ing" is coz it acts as a noun.
participle?
Where's Linz when I need her?

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Date: 2004-03-09 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com
-ing is a gerund (when it's used as a noun). An infinitive isn't acting as a noun, though - that's a separate use.

The thing is with "that needs fixed", is there's an implicit elipsis - "that needs [to be] fixed". I think the language can cope with this elipsis within idioms.

e.g. verbs are normally qualified with adverbs not adjectives, but "I feel happy" (as opposed to happily), because the use of an adjective with feel, seem, look, &c. is taken to imply a relative clause "I feel [that I am] happy"

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Date: 2004-03-09 09:26 am (UTC)
gerald_duck: (Duckula)
From: [personal profile] gerald_duck
I disagree: "needs" can be the third person singular of the verb "need", as well as the plural of the noun.

Thus "this is the cupboard that needs fixed" actually means "more than one need fixed this cupboard". It doesn't make much sense, but it does make enough that "to be" shouldn't have been removed.

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