Human sexuality is an absolute minefield, so let's start tiptoeing and try not to get blown up.
Ideally, if either person says no, even at the last moment, then that should be it: stop. (This might have the additional effect that teenage pregnancy rates drop substantially and, backdated far enough, might obviate the damage to the planet caused by human evolution...). The problem is that that 'ideally' assumes that the signals are unambiguous, and if there's one time that signals are all too often ambiguous, it's during the circumstances Mirren mentions.
Rape is often held to be a crime motivated by an attempt to assert power over someone else rather than about sex. I think that's a pretty fair view, but while it may be valid for stranger rape, or marital rape, I don't think it really fits the date rape model.
(As for the 'when is the last second' question, that's even harder. Is it just before penetration, or can it be somewhat later?)
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Date: 2008-09-02 12:43 pm (UTC)Ideally, if either person says no, even at the last moment, then that should be it: stop. (This might have the additional effect that teenage pregnancy rates drop substantially and, backdated far enough, might obviate the damage to the planet caused by human evolution...). The problem is that that 'ideally' assumes that the signals are unambiguous, and if there's one time that signals are all too often ambiguous, it's during the circumstances Mirren mentions.
Rape is often held to be a crime motivated by an attempt to assert power over someone else rather than about sex. I think that's a pretty fair view, but while it may be valid for stranger rape, or marital rape, I don't think it really fits the date rape model.
(As for the 'when is the last second' question, that's even harder. Is it just before penetration, or can it be somewhat later?)